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Dorothea Ludwig-Wang, Th.M.'s avatar

Many have attempted to dismiss my conclusions based on the fact that the examples I provide in the section "Canonical Equity and Reasonableness" are ridiculous. Not only is this argument a cop-out, it actually proves my point: the examples are SUPPOSED to be ridiculous to demonstrate why an overly broad interpretation of UDG 76 would lead to unreasonable results, and because it leads to unreasonable results, it cannot be correct because law is an ordinance of reason.

Surely no sane person would believe that a spelling mistake or a natural disaster would invalidate a papal election. But it IS the absurd conclusion that would logically follow from an interpretation that holds that UDG 76 applies to any violation of any provision within the entire document. People need to have the intellectual honesty to actually OWN the consequences of their own position or humbly accept that they were wrong if they cannot.

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Eric S's avatar

It is unfortunate that you never addressed the specific issue at hand which makes the whole question of UDG 76 relevant. It is the fact that UDG 33 states quite clearly that the number of electors in the Conclave MUST NOT exceed 120. Yet 133 men voted in the May 7-8, 2025 Conclave. Which is a clear, flagrant, willful, and explicit violation of the law that radically alters the composition of the electorate.

But you didn't answer that question. Instead you addressed fictitious cases like natural disasters, and misspelled names, and burnt ballots, which did not happen, while not addressing the real case of what actually did happen. In any case I would presume from your basic argument that you would not accept that as invalidating the election so we have to then move on to the other issue here.

As previously stated No. 33 of UDG permits there to be only 120 Cardinal electors but we ended up having 133 Cardinals remaining in the Sistine Chapel throughout the entire process. No. 52 and No. 54 make it clear that everyone except the Cardinal electors must leave the Sistine Chapel before the election may begin. No. 33 limits the number of electors to 120, yet there were 133 men in the room. Thirteen men who were required to leave the chapel before the voting could even start did not leave.

Ergo the voting never started. Ergo there was no vote. The dog and pony show they went through afterward was just as legitimate as if myself and 132 of my best friends got together, held a vote, and declared the winner to be the Roman Pontiff. It was a moment of unreality that needs to be corrected forthwith.

Because 13 men who were not permitted to be in the Sistine Chapel during the election did not leave the election never started and therefore whatever was done afterwards has absolutely no relevance to the question of who the Roman Pontiff is. Legally speaking they never voted so the sede vacante never ended. Either way the 133 kills you.

I completely get that after a decade of baseless theories about Benevacantism put out by charlatans on the internet people don't want to hear this. So fine do your thing. We Catholics have become experts at ignoring reality and our media and our 'experts' have assisted us mightily in this task. But the bill for what they did here, along with everything else that we have stuck our heads in the sand about, will have to be paid at some point.

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